Mail. We Get Mail When The Exes Are Selfish Children
May 18, 2008 by susangpyp
Sometimes I try to be as empathic as I possibly can even to the dumpers. Other times it is SNAP! time. This week’s mail seems to involve a lot of SNAP! time.
I know some readers (well one reader) might have an issue with me using words like bananahead, but hey, if the fruit fits: wear it.
So if me calling a bananahead a bananahead offends you, I suggest you skip this edition of Mail.
If someone has a different take on these emails than my responses here, please let me know. But sometimes the way people act makes me crazy and when I receive a lot of these emails in one week, I get crazy. These two emails made me very crazy.
Dear Susan:
I’ve read your website for a few months now and never thought I’d be writing you, but am going backwards lately.
My girlfriend of about a year broke up with me about 3 days after Valentine Day. Sometime after New Year’s Eve I thought she seemed distant. I asked her if anything was wrong and she said no but things were “off” in late January, early February. She was definitely distant and didn’t want to do much or see me very much.
On Valentine Day, I sent a dozen roses to her office as she said that everyone in the office got roses and it would mean a lot. I also made reservations at a 5 star restaurant for that night and while we were there, I gave her a necklace.
She did not like the necklace and almost immediately after opening it, asked if she could return it. She didn’t even give me a card. I felt bad and thought that I had f’d up the gift and that maybe she was expecting an engagement ring. Maybe she was or maybe she wasn’t but I hadn’t gotten that far yet.
The next day she returned the necklace and bought herself earrings. The day after that she broke dinner plans with me and the day after that she said she was breaking up with me and although it wasn’t the reason why, she mentioned that the necklace disappointed her and she reallly wasn’t crazy about the restaurant either. She said she just felt “eh” about me after that night and even though we had a great Christmas (went skiing and that was her idea) and she liked what I gave her for her birthday back in October, she was not happy with Vday. She listed other things but the Valentine Day thing just keeps spinning in my head.
About a week later I asked her if I could make it up to her and she said no. I asked her what had gone wrong and she said she didn’t know. I asked her if she had wanted an engagement ring for Valentine Day and she said no but diamonds would have been nice.
About a month later she called me and asked to borrow $500. When I seemed hesitant she brought up Valentine’s Day. I gave her the $500. She said it was until she got her income tax money and I know she must have gotten it by now. I’m not sure what to do. Every time we talk I feel like a piece of crap and I am afraid of recycling if I talk to her again. I don’t know why I feel so bad about myself every time I do.
Signed–Doubting Thomas
Thomas: I’m glad you’re here and that you wrote this all out. Excuse me if I think that your girlfriend sounds like a superficial selfish little twit. I have no idea what was going on before Valentine’s Day but it sounds like the bloom was off the rose and she was holding out until the actual roses and jewelry crossed into her hands. And then she decided to nit pick at you over what were her parting gifts.
And behind door number 3 was nothing for you but buh bye.
So then little Ms. Greedy Bananaheadette somehow manipulates you into lending money and brings up Valentine’s Day? (excuse me, where is my whack-a-mole mallet?)
The issue here is that the relationship as probably on the downward side and she didn’t really let you know that. Instead she held out and when Vday did not please her, she let you have it. It’s not to say that anything would have pleased her and if something did enough to keep her in the relationship, well do you want that type of person? I think probably not.
The issue here is being so hurt and pummeled by someone over superficial things that you allowed yourself to be roped into lending her money a month later. You might have thought that was the way back, or A way back, but in the end you need to take responsibility for the fact that you allowed it. The way she behaved is not okay but at some point you have to take responsibility for the way you fed into it. And why. Was it fear? What? What was the dynamic before this? It sounds like she had the power and control. Did she and if so why? Did she say jump and you said how high or did this come later?
Remember the GPYP adage: you get what you put up with. And here you’ve put up with an awful lot. You have to take responsibility for that.
Do your grief work, work on that self-esteem and kick this one to the curb. You might need to see the loan as a loss and forget about ever seeing that money again. Just chalk it up to a loss that carried with it an extremely valuable lesson and start working on you and what’s going on.
You can do so much better than this. I’m sorry if I sound really tough on this woman but she just sounds like such a jerk.
Take care of you!!!!
And now for a jerk of the opposite sex:
My ex broke up w/me in December. He’s called a couple of times since then, he wanted to ease his guilty conscience as far as i’m concerned. In November we found out we were pregnant, it wasn’t planned. We weren’t ready, and we had an abortion. I took it really hard. One month later he broke up w/me, said he didn’t love me that way.
I saw him at a party this past weekend. He made an effort to talk to me all night. I just don’t get it, why he would be so interested in my life - why doesn’t he just let me go if he supposedly didn’t love me. He asked if I had finished this book i was reading just before we broke up. I said no, b/c it was his book and still at his apartment. He said he would get it to me if i was interested. I said i’d buy if maybe later on. He said well let me know. The Monday after the party, my receptionist called me to tell me someone had left something for me at front desk. Sure enough, he walked 1/2 from his work to mine to drop it off and said ’she’ll know who it’s from’. What is that? I mean do you love me or not buddy? Why pull these weird head games?
Any thoughts?
Unsure
Dear Unsure:
There is nothing in his behavior that says he loves you. In fact, it all shouts the opposite. How did you get from running into him at a party, receiving this book and then asking the question: “Do you love me or not buddy?” The question does not follow at all. And why is the answer even important in light of all he’s done?
Many times we try to “read something into” things that others do not because they are thinking of us but because they are NOT thinking of us and NOT thinking of much, except themselves, at all.
The reality is not “we were pregnant and we had an abortion.” The reality is you were pregnant and YOU had the abortion. And that was hard on you. And that is something that needs to be recognized and grieved and dealt with emotionally. Something tells me you were not able to share your grief and your pain with Mr. Manly Man….because a month later Mr. Bananahead decided he didn’t love you “in that way.”
His actions say it and his words say it. He doesn’t love you. He didn’t love you. Love is not what it’s about for him.
When he reaches out to touch someone, it’s because he’s not clear what it is he’s doing–he’s probably not even THINKING about what he’s doing–but it’s clear that his thoughts and actions are NOT about the fact that he really loves you.
You told him you could get it and he said well let me know. But he doesn’t wait for you to let him know. He just drops it off, and what does that mean? It doesn’t mean anything. It’s a non-gesture. It could mean that he doesn’t listen because it’s pretty clear he doesn’t and it probably means that he’s just doing what he wants when he wants with NO regard to you and your feelings or thoughts about it.
If I go over to the Main Reading Room of the main branch of the New York Public Library (which is about 10 feet from my office), I can hand them a piece of paper with an ISBN number on it and they will go to the stacks and come back with a book for me.
It doesn’t mean they love me. In fact, I’m pretty sure those librarians aren’t loving too many patrons.
Even if dropping off the book to you meant something…so what? Dropping books off is not the sign of someone’s love that you want (see librarians, New York Public Library).
You want someone who can man up and say he loves you “IN THAT WAY” and be there for you.
You also want to sleep with someone who, if he doesn’t love you “in that way” is man enough to bring the condoms and use them.
He sounds like a stupid, spoiled, selfish child. Sorry, but that is my take on him.
I know this might sound harsh, but you sound like you went through a lot, you were trying to move on and this guy just waltzes in without a thought as to what it’s going to do to you. I think that you deserve so much more than this and you should forget him and work on your self-worth so that you attract better people into your life.
My take on you is to stop trying to read the tea leaves and the “many interpretations” of Mr. Confused and his book dropping off behavior. A. It doesn’t mean he loves you. B. If it DOES mean he loves you, do you really want this person? He sounds like a loser with a capital, neon-lit L
You can do so much better than this. I’m sorry if I sound really tough on this guy but he just sounds like such a jerk.
Take care of you!!!!








Wow. “Dear Abby” you are not. That is meant as a compliment. Telling it like it is is not an easy thing to do but here it is.
A fine, fine post, Susan. You can “watch my back” any day. Right on! I’ve always thought “bananahead” was a little too kind.
I really like the way you balanced the post: a female AND a male jerk. Sometimes we need these labels. My vote is for the “whack-a-mole mallet”.
Truly, a susan-at-her-best post.
It keeps ME reading.
Great, solid advice. I think so often we want to believe that we are loved so much so that we seek out any clue at all whatsoever to prove that someone who clearly doesn’t love us does in fact love us. It’s the “self-deception that believes the lie.” It’s hard to come to terms with the fact that someone has rejected us or that they never loved us in the first place.
I just finished Judith Sills book, A Fine Romance and she said throughout the book that we should not not focus on the outcome of something, focus on the person you are with. Yes, we all want to be loved and we want to live happily ever after but sometimes the person we are with is not good enough for that. We cling to them not because of who they are or how they treat us but rather what they represent to us (not being alone, being loved, etc.)
I can’t tell you how many times I read into things… a guy would dump me but then call me a few months later and I would be certain that this was a sign he cared about me (it wasn’t) I’ve dated more bananaheads than I can count. And every single time both while I was with them and after they dumped me, I tried to find some clue that they cared about me. I realize now that I was clinging all along to a fantasy not to the reality.
Anyhow, my heart goes out to both of these people, but the very best thing for all of us caught up in these situations of non-love is to face the reality and then just be better to yourself so that in the future, when someone treats you like crap you eject them from your life without question or pause.
Love is action and we are the 1st ones who should be taking that action (ie. love ourselves so that we don’t fall victim to users and losers)
I’m glad you like that book. It was mind-blowing to me when I read it. I screwed up a lot of things but eventually it sunk in. It’s never been a well-known book but I try to promote it when I can. I really like it. Just say no to bananaheads!
So everyone, here it goes, time for you all to give me a good butt kicking…..
Was really busy at work last week so didn’t see the ex very much around the office then I had to leave town for work. Ex (via instant message) invited me to coffee with him during the week while I was in the office but I didn’t respond. He sent me an email (just kind of a newsy mail about what was going on for him at work)…I didn’t respond, and he tried calling me….I didn’t respond.
Went away for the weekend to relax. Came home and saw my former husband who wants to see about us trying again (we stayed friends after the split) (he is really a good solid person but we split because he was an emotionally distant person and his drinking had become a problem…..he has been in therapy and stopped drinking). Told him I felt pretty numb about a lot of things and just didn’t know….. I always loved him but grew more distant over time because of things said/done during drunken events and things not said/done the rest of the time…..tried to work on it before, he didn’t but over the past few years he has been doing some work and making progress.
So, today the work ex came to see me for coffee (just popped in my office). Friendly conversation, blah, blah, etc. about work, general stuff about weekend (another co-worker came in also). Afterwards, he tells me that he loves me and misses me and cares about me and that he is with someone else because he knows we can never be together (age difference, kids, etc.) and that we both need to be happy separately but that it doesn’t mean he will ever stop caring about me.
Are you wondering how I feel? Well, the same as before….freaking NUMB!!!!! If I could have my choices, I wish I were younger and that he was older and that we could be together….but then I’m not even sure anymore that is what I feel….everything is all messed up!
He is probably absolutely correct in going a different course if life together doesn’t bring him what he wants for himself…..but at the same time….WHAT AN IMMATURE JERK!!!!!!
And, what about the ex-husband? More stuff for me to think about……and I don’t want to think. I want to crawl back into my cave and lock the world out!
I think I’m the bananahead!
“I love you. I miss you. I’m with someone else because….”
This is wrong on so many levels, I don’t even know where to begin. How would you like if you were with him and he was off telling some other woman, I love you and miss you.
Why would you want to be with someone who has no regard for her, no regard for you…just needs to freaking babble about what he thinks and feels with NO regard for the women involved. This is more than immaturity. This is selfishness at the highest level.
If his morals are such that he thinks that it’s OKAY to do this…to you, to her…then he’s such a loser bananahead.
Look at him for what he is. Loser. Bananahead. Loser. Bananahead. Loser. Bananahead.
:) thanks Susan….I needed that! Butt appropriately kicked!
I really think he does love and miss me (my growing self-esteem tells me this is true) but you are 100% correct in reminding us….IT DOESN’T MATTER….because he isn’t with me, he IS with someone else and loving/being with someone else isn’t about loving me….at least not in the way I should be loved!
But I must say this, I feel that I was also a bananahead in the past (immature and selfish) and even now (not letting go when everything is in front of me telling me what I should know but don’t listen).
One day I hope to be strong enough to see the writing on the wall without the need for a butt kicking! Thanks again!
When my ex was going back and forth between me and his new gf I got to the point where I wondered who was he lying to, manipulating etc. The answer was both of us. And the one who was going to WIN (him) was the one who continued to believe his wacky bs. I decided she could have him….what he does WITH you, he’ll do TO you. He started out cheating on me with her and eventually was cheating on her with me.
How pleasant.
I want a man who knows what he wants, isn’t afraid to get it, and doesn’t try to play and manipulate others. Someone who knows love is an action. It’s not only what you DO but what you don’t do and this guy (and my ex) is very confused about what you DON’T do.
If my ex had an itch he would scratch it. Sounds the same for this guy.
You are the only bananahead you can do anything about…so just knowing he is a bananahead and leave him behind in bananahead city is the right course of action. :)
‘Nese - I don’t think you’re the Bananahead at all. From what you wrote, you didn’t invite them to resurface. And you didn’t invite Current Bananahead to tell you his feelings. If he feels that way about you, that’ s an HP (his problem), not a YP (your problem).
Regarding feeling numb, I think that’s a step in the right direction. Numb is moving toward indifferent. It’s as if the good and the bad are zeroing each other out…not altogether a bad thing, huh?
I don’t really have much insight for you other than to remind you that how you feel is perfectly fine and more than okay. Because it’s how *you* feel. Numb isn’t bad. Numb can be good.
And for what it’s worth…you totally rock. :)
Nese,
“I really think he does love and miss me”…um, from what you’ve described, he doesn’t even know what love is. More importantly, you seem to be willing to accept this confusing, nonsensical version of so-called love. What he feels for you is not love. As your self esteem continues to grow, you will not see what he has to offer as love. What he has to offer is nothing but venting, and an opportunity to allow you to scratch his itch, as Susan says. How wonderful–if you want to, you can scratch his itch and call it love.
Yuck, Nese; there’s nothing good for you there. You deserve the real deal and if you raise your standards, you can have it. You don’t have to listen to his “venting” at all. You can choose to stop him before he even starts next time. It’s insulting and a waste of your time. Probably true for the ex-hubby, too. Be cautious there. It may be good for you to have NC with either of them. You can do a version of NC even if you work with someone. You have the right to live in today and to dream of–and BUILD–a future with neither ex. Take good care of yourself.
Well, in this case, if I am really keeping my side of the street clean, I have to honestly say that he isn’t seeing me other than at work and only for an occasional coffee.
He spends every moment of his after hours time with the new g/f (totally enmeshed….as I said before, they had 4 dates before he started spending every nite at her house and rarely does he/they do anything with friends as individuals or even as a couple since they started dating). So, other than for an occassional coffee, he isn’t spending time with me.
I’m not so sure he is trying to manipulate me as much as he is trying to ease his own conscious about moving on.
My ex knows that he wants children and that the age difference poses concerns he’s not sure he can manage in the future. I grant him a big plus for being man enough to say it and move on…….the immaturity comes in with what transpired afterwards and continues through the present.
I agree with you though….I want a man who not only knows what he wants but one who is strong enough and mature enough to be a life partner in a grown up way.
Sometimes I feel as though I have wasted 7 years of my life with him….on the other hand, those 7 years were really wonderful and almost magical times for me and opened my eyes to what I want in a relationship (as well as what I don’t want).
I just hope that I will be able to experience that level of joy again with someone else…..
Kathy … your response to Nese was very helpful to me. I too have gotten caught up in thinking “he loves me and misses me” as if that matters. I spent the last couple of years scratching his itch and thinking it was love. I am so glad that I have a name for it now and am no longer wasting my time doing it. If he “loved me and missed me” we wouldn’t be where we are now. I’m working on raising my standards so I’ll be ready for the real deal :).
BostonKathy,
Hi girl! I’ve been caught up in that, too. I’ve learned the hard
way. Your standards are getting better by the day and you WILL
have the real deal–I feel very sure of that! :)
Nese,
In response to your:
“I just hope that I will be able to experience that level of joy again with someone elseā¦..”
I say:
Dare to set the bar EVEN HIGHER. Don’t just hope for what you had before, but better. You deserve even better. Believe it is
out there. It is!
Thanks Kathy…..and I guess “hoping” isn’t enough. I see differences when I feel better about myself….differences in the way people treat me, respond to me, etc.
Probably explains the ex-husband wanting to try again….and the ex b/f telling me he misses me, etc.
I was feeling pretty good there for a bit but this weekend’s events and today have left me feeling a mix of okay/sad/numb……mostly just confused about me, my life and where I am going/where I want to go (mostly just back to bed to forget & just dream pleasant things).
The ex husband called me at work today just to say hello and see how my day was going. He knows I am doing volunteer work tonight and offered to bring by the center any materials I might need in case I didn’t have enough time to first go home after work. Very thoughtful gestures….but as in everything lately, I am fearful to let my guard down because the other shoe always drops when I do but I am also tired of always having my guard up lately.
I’m just tired……tired…..tired.
‘Nese,
re. the “differences in the way people treat me, respond to me, etc”, I am sure it has a lot do do with how you feel about yourself. Feeling better makes you more attractive in their eyes, but it’s difficult yet maybe important to resist the temptation of going back with people who are probably not good for you (I don’t really know about your ex-husband, but I am guessing that there may have been some things unacceptable for you that caused the breakup, however amicable it may have been….I tend to think, going back only leads to repetition of old patterns…in italian there is a saying, one should not reheat the minestrone…
:) Thanks Greenroses….I like the Italian saying!
Kinda reminds me of an ex boyfriend who as Susan rightly described him as, was also a selfish little child; and who wants those, probably just their mothers who will continue to spoil them rotten and they will just never grow up, and then again who wants one of those?
About my dream from a couple of nights back.
I was having huge argument with my mother. Don’t remember the topic now. But it was real bad. So bad that I woke up and started feeling horrible. Had a bit of hard time to fall asleep later.
In another dream, I was back in 1st grade (not as kid, mind you, but as today’s me!). And the teacher (don’t know who she was) was trying to teach me alphabets. I tried to write them as I know them. But she said, it was wrong way and was showing me to write alphabets as mirror image!!
Talk about starting from scratch… :D
I feel physically sick because the contact thing has happened and while I knew what would happen I stupidly believed…well I don’t know what, really.
During the past 5 months he e-mailed every month because he can’t let go. he has a whole train of ex girlfriends he is still in contact with and he wants to add me to that. I manged to reply politely but unengaging every time. Then he finally called and I stupidly answered. Probably because he acts like a sociopath and if I don’t he won’t stop.
We had what seemed like a good conversation. He wanted to meet and I stupidly agreed to and said what day I would be available. After a few days of not having heard anything I sent an e-mail to say my weekend is filling up so if you know what you want to do let me know.
And a typical cop-out e-mail: ‘Have been agonising about this for a few days. We had such a good conversation on Friday and left it on such a good note. I know I should not create expectations and then not follow through but I’m afraid that we would make things worse again if we see each other.’
To which I replied: No, I don’t think it would be a good idea to see each other. (Mostly because I would like to strangle him).
The funny thing is that I knew this would happen. And even though I feel physically sick and am shaking with anger for him having treated me like this again for the thousandth time, in some weird way I am vindicated because I now have even more proof that he is a totally selfish idiot and does not deserve any of my time. As if I needed more proof. What I am really angry about with myself is that I gave him the satisfaction of blowing me off one more time.
The good thing is that any charitable thoughts I may possibly have held towards him (yes, amazingly I did feel sorry for him) are now gone forever. There is only anger left.
Yareli,
that to me seems like an act of utter insecurity and it is so immature and childish of him, it is such a cheep game! I can understand your anger very well, but dont beat yourself up, you may have just needed this “last event” to detach totally from him. I also face the problem that my ex has a history of actually remaining in contact with his ex-girlfriends (even doing business with them, which we still do as well but I am getting out of it end of August) and he also says (we have only contact via text message and strictly on business) that “despite everything, we should meet and talk with each other” and I have to reject that, as I know it will harm me. I have already beaten myself up enough WITHIN the relationship and it was so painful to finally arrive at the point where I wanted to get out of it (and did so, and it was also more or less mutual, but very emotional etc as we both still loved each other).
Now I am setting boundaries and he tries to cross over those sometimes, and so far I managed to not let him.
But maybe you just needed this last experience to make everything clear for you.
Serenity quoted something in the past days that I liked a lot, about the dog going after whatever has been thrown to him, but the lion just turning back to look WHO has thrown that thing.
Try to be the lion from now on! Good luck…
Yareli,
I agree with what Greenroses said. It is a totally immature and cheap mindgame. I think Susangpyp and others have posted here about how the X is just “checking” to see if he has the fan club thing going. It doesn’t matter that it might hurt or disturb you– this is just such poor, jerky, behavior.
I’m sure my ex would have indulged in it if had left the door open for the possibility…this is how it would’ve gone– He would’ve been feeling lonely or had had a fight with the new one, and then just call me up or write me to suck more kindness or nurturing out of me and make himself feel good because I was still thinking of him. Luckily for me, although other messy things happened, this last was prevented because I changed all means of contacting me after the first time he did it to hurt me.
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I think you have a great self-talk point to keep repeating to yourself and help yourself break free.
“he is a totally selfish idiot and does not deserve any of my time”
I think of a lot of us who try to be good to people have trouble going NC because it is, really, considered a punishment to drop someone as a friend. But we don’t have to feel guilty for taking care of ourselves, particularly when the other party really does not understand how he still hurts us! Here’s a piece of self-talk I recite often from my journal:
“I am innocent because I have a good reason for kicking him out of my life.”
Greenroses,
That story about the lion and dog can definitely apply to what you’re talking about, but the interesting thing is is that it’s talking about the human mind. Instead of just chasing a thought into obsessing about something, the author is suggesting that the regal, self-aware and self-possessed thing to do is to figure out WHAT inside ourselves is throwing out the obsessive thought in the first place.
I’m trying to do that a lot these days…If I can take care of my needs that push those thoughts that then result in an obsessive thought churning, then I can cut the whole process off at the source…and take care of me.
:C Still a work in progress
Thank you Greenroses and Serenity,
I can’t remove all ways of contacting me because he has my work numbers, but I have blocked his e-mail addresses and I can screen his calls. I made sure I have the country code for Finland which is where he’s moving to so I can screen calls. As for the rest, I’ll just have to delete text messages without reading them as he has my work mobile number as well.
The good thing is that I don’t feel guilty about hitting the delete key. I have never cut anyone out of my life before, but he thoroughly deserved it.
Empty in DC,
I must agree that this webiste is both helpful and incredibly stimulating. Stimulating in the sense that you know you are not alone. We push our ex’s to come back into our live for many reasons, one of which is the fear of being alone. My story is long and at the moment very painful. I still hold on to the little signs of what I perceive are to be hopeful. I do think I am fooling myself, but I can’t seem to let go.
Anyway, the basics… we were together for 4.5 years. It was great suring the first year or two. I am older, 41 now and she 32. I am divorced with a 19 year old son attending college. I am much more experienced with relationships. Howwever, I have serious faults that I’ve worked on for the last year and a half… since our first breakup after Christmas of 2007. Looking back I realized I was a bit controlling, demanding, and picky. After the first year and a half, I began to poke a bit in order to gauge her thoughts on marriage. She stated she never thought about it. She would hae to be comfortable with the outcome before she would consider marriage. I learned that her parents were in a non-communicating, non-loving marriage after 40 years of marriage. They sleep in separate bedrooms, have done so for many years. They are not affectionate… yada x 3. Bottom line, she didn’t want a relationship like theirs. During this first year and a half, I was able to help her express in words to her parents, that she loved them… actually, tell them “I love you Dad, Mom.” I also helped her find her first home, spent countless days, weeks, months replacing floors, renovating bathrooms, painting, you name it. I also cooked dinner and other meals for her about 90% of the time during the 4.5 years. The other times, we went to restaurants. We enjoyed winetasting, shopping, excersing together… you name it. We did it all. We did not argue… However, near the end of the relationship, she did express that she felt as if my expectations were too high and that she felt as if I was disappointed in what she tried to do for me. This really hit me hard. I see that she may think this. But after further analysis… my shutting down came from the lack of commitment I let myslef feel. I wanted her to adore me, put me somewhere in the top 3 of her list. maybe I was, but I didn’t feel it. I didn’t get the unsolicited “I love you’s” from her. Her family did not approve of me… divorced and child. her brother gave her a hard time for years about dating a divorced man… the ironic thing is that he just married a divorced woman. Her mother is not proud of that fact and refuses to let the rest of the family know that fact. My ex, I beleive has a good heart. I’ve made many changes to my behavior. I am seeing a therapist, read plenty of relationship books, and sepnt many hours lending listening ears of friends. She just returned from a trip and I tried to reach out and ask her to join me for a glass of wine. She replied that it may not be a good idea. I am trying to keep that glimmer of hope alive and am trying to convince myself that she will be back. After reading these posts, I realize that you can’t continue to pursue someone who doesn’t love you back. But I don’t know how to let go. It has been 3 weeks since I’ve seen her but there has been a couple of texts and emails in between but all inititiated by me. I want to be happy, married with children and a lovely home. I want it to be with her. I think I wrote enough. Bottom line is that I think this site has helped me. I welcome any advice or comments.
ugh… this all sounds so sickeningly familiar.
David,
A couple of posts of Susan’s come to mind that have been helpful to many in your situation, one one “Letting go”, the other on “When the person you love doesn’t love you.” There are a couple of search boxes on this page (top of page or in the middle of the right column).